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Hey all,
I'm not sure if this fits here or somewhere else, but I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can obtain a copy of jaws 17 or 16 without having to deal with freedom scientific? I can't afford that and my voc rehab counselor says they won't get it for me unless Im either working or going to college. But I've been on the job hunt for awile and I really can't find anything and without a good working version of jaws I can't really do any of the job search. The current version I have now expires in less than a week. Otherwise, can anyone tell me how to get the eloquence voice for NVDA? I really honestly hate the ESpeak synthesizer or whatever it's called.
sorry I meant to title it updating screen readers
Hmm, not sure if you are asking to obtain an illegal copy of jaws or not. If you are, it is
not allow and against the TOS of the zone.
IAs far as NVDA is concern, depends on what version of windows OS you have. You can
change the NVDA default speech from ESpeak to something more pleasant. You can also
pay a small fee to purchase eloquence. I think from memory is around $25US or so.
I'm not asking for an illegal copy I'm just wondering if I can get a version without having to pay so much money or somehow get more activation keys. Admins, yall can delete this board if I'm breaking any of the TOS sorry.
If you have a legal copy, you should able to get the SMA upgrade for a couple of hundreds
instead of paying the full version which is around $990. You might able to get some zoned
to donate you with an updated user license. It also depends on what was the last upgrade
you have as to how much you need to pay. I think you are not allow to skip a version with
your SMA without paying the full price again.
Yes, I do have a legal copy, I' using jaws 15 currently. What does SMA stand for?
It stands for software maintenance agreement and that may be the way for you to go especially since you need jaws for job hunting. Good luck to you. .
15 to 17 will cost around 400 because you are 2 back. The current version is 18 however, and that will be more. FS has 3 month versions you can buy for less as well, but you have to deal with them.
Tell your rehab person to set it up as a home or living product, not a job or school related product.
It means rewriting your goals sheet, but can be done.
You need it to maintain your home. Paying bills, shopping, that sort of thing.
NVDA would be a choice too. Simply download the current version and give it a try.
Apply to your local Lion's culb asking exactly the same I explained you'd ask rehab. Tell them you want an upgrade on your SMA.
Go to school. Why not? It will do you good and give you a chance to get out and such.
I forgot to add. Your current screen reader doesn't expire. It works as long at you want it too. You can even move it to other machines.
Your problem will be using updated programs, but the screen reader will continue to be valid.
Forgot.
Your current version won't expire. Why do you think this?
Once you have it, you have it.
What Wayne is saying I think is that you can continue to use your current version of Jaws indefinitely. That could be for several years more or so depending on whether other software programs remain compatible with it. But at some time in the future, you will probably need to update Jaws. Maybe by the time you need to do that, your financial situation will be more stable. Good luck.
At her current one, it is time. It works, but not as well probably on the sites and such she wants to use.
I say it will expire cause it tells me I have 6 days till I need to have it update until I am stuck using the 40 minute mode version and that is annoying.
Hang on, you are using jaws on 40 minutes mode? The demo version? If that is the case,
you should able to update it without any problem since you are only using the demo
version of jaws.
Otherwise I'm confuse. I can still run my jaws 13 on windows XP computer, and jaws 17
on windows 8.1 computer perfectly fine.
And I am still using Jaws 16 with Windows 8.1 with no issues, even on the web. The versions work longer than FS would have you think.
you could use nvda if you have no other choice and can't pony up the cash. works similar and its free.
They work period. Jaws 15 and up work fine it is just some sites you don't see all the information.
If you have Office, or some other current programs, they won't work as well.
Agreed, if using a demo, just get 18. You should have your license key if you own your current version.
Go to help, click on update authorization and follow the prompts.
Even FS will give you an authorization if you are out of them.
They will also tell you your key if you've forgotten it.
Go to fsactivate.com and fill out the form.
The never expire as stated her by several of us.
Also, you can get a Dongle to bypass all those dumb activation key restrictions FS has put in place. HTH.
Where can I get the dongle?
You have to deal with FS.
You can't get one for your version now however.
Actually v16 works fine with office as long as it isn't office 2016.
Exactly my point. It won't work with Windows 10 and lots of other things.
If you don't care about that, you're good, or if you never have to replace your system.
If you aren't savvy and can reinstall previous versions of Windows on a new setup, you'll have to upgrade.
I keep current, because I enjoy using the current offerings, websites, and such.
It is more cost effective to upgrade when required then wait for years to pass in my opinion.
I like the advantage of being able to use what I can.
Jaws, no matter what version will be limited, so I like to have less limits as possible when it comes to computing.
But, for this situation, she's fine, and her Jaws will continue to work. That will give her some time to maybe explore the other options as to getting it upgraded.
I use a laptop at work. We're all way behind the times, and still on Windows (the whole agency) as far as I'm aware. What would be the most recent version of Jaws I could run?
Thanks
18. I doubt they are using XP. so.
Sorry, I meant to say Windows 7. In your experiences, how does NVDA's accessibility compare to JFWs? I may consider getting a laptop for home use. I may not have the cash to spend on a new JFW update. I've missed a couple versions, so would probably have to buy a whole new package.
I can say, NVDA is pretty good. I've been a power NVDA user for almost 10 years, and have never looked back. Yes I know a lot of people can't stand e speak because they clame that it sounds too much like a robot or alien, but you don't have to use that if you don't want to. You can always revert to using sapi 5 on your system or you can get other voices, some free, some you have to pay for. Code factory has eloquence that you can get as well as an up to date version of vocalizer expressive, but i'm not sure of the price because I've only tried the demo of it. They haven't updated the other vocalizer from tifloktnia or however you spell it in years, so I would assume since code factory has taken over vocalizer they probably wont be anytime soon. Most of the commands for using NVDA is pretty much like jaws, probably the only differences would be if you have to use the quick navigation keys. You can also get addons for NVDA to add more functionality to it.
I use both NVDA and Jaws but JAWS was more for schoolwork then anything else. NVDA was more for Japanese games and stuff. :p But, problem is, ESpeak sounds annoying as crap much like JAWS does. :d
I am using windows 8
You can use jaws 18 on windows 8. Although i find that with jaws 15 is good enough.
I got jaws 16 on both of my windows 8.1 machine.
And with NVDA, there shouldn't be any problem running it at all. Like Zackmack said
before, you can change the default voice from ESpeak to something else.
NVDA has online support chat groups now too, so that is helping people learn it.
They seem to keep it updated.
I prefer Jaws, but that doesn't mean NVDA is bad. Just my preference.
How does NVDA work with Excell. I use spreadsheets a lot at work. Although I probably wouldn't use NVDA for work, I am curious as to it handles more advanced commands. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll buy a new laptop and download NVDA.
I don't have office at all on this thing, so as far as the support for Excellgoes I can't comment on it, but I would assume it works quite well.
The latest version claims support for Microsoft Office.
The problem I see is they will claim support, but it doesn't always work well.
It is free however, so you lose nothing to try it.
Except time.
I have Jaws 15 with Windows 8.1, so...yeah.
I can't stand NVDA's default voice, so I got hold of eloquence. They're really quite similar, those two programs. NVDA looks a little different on the internet, and will take just a bit of getting used to, but it's much smaller and more lightweight, and much faster as well in my opinion. Frankly, if I could make webpages look almost or completely the way they do with Jaws on NVDA, I might happily switch over and not go back. I just can't do it though. NVDA says things, announces things and displays things in a way I don't usually find all that intuitive on the internet. Everywhere else though, it's pretty good.
I have a windows 7 vm on my mac, a windows 8.1 vm, and a windows 10 vm and I use nvda with all of them no problem. And because I have been a jaws user for so long with work and school and things, I am used to that voice so I use that voice with NVDA. Its not that different, and works in all office products just fine for me.
The way NVDA reads the website will be more like how it will be reads by the sighted.
Jaws can at times simplify a lot of stuff on the website, and sometime, there are things
that Window Eyes and NVDA can pick up but Jaws ignore it. Especially with complicated
site menus. I do agree that it needs time to get use to NVDA though, but ones you get
use to it, it is a great program to have.
NVDA just publish their user guide and tutorials book. I heard that it got great information
and great resources in there.
Tilor, you'll need to go into brows mode settings with NVDA and uncheck the checkbox that says use screan layout, when supported. That will make NVDA read websites the way wineyes and jaws reads them.
Another solution you might want to look in to is system access by serotek. They have a few different options, but for I think its 22 dollars a month, you can get the anywhere package, which will give you everything, the system access screen reader, which has key strokes that are identical to jaws, docu scan plus, and the system access mobile network. Just thought I'd throw that out there for you.
Agree with the last post. System Access is the easiest screen reader to use on the planet, and the Sero network has a lot of great content. In addition, they have built in support for facebook, and an excellent search engine.
22 per month is expensive though. Jaws pans out to about 8 if you are doing an upgrade.
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Post 1 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 0:17:46
Hey all,
I'm not sure if this fits here or somewhere else, but I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can obtain a copy of jaws 17 or 16 without having to deal with freedom scientific? I can't afford that and my voc rehab counselor says they won't get it for me unless Im either working or going to college. But I've been on the job hunt for awile and I really can't find anything and without a good working version of jaws I can't really do any of the job search. The current version I have now expires in less than a week. Otherwise, can anyone tell me how to get the eloquence voice for NVDA? I really honestly hate the ESpeak synthesizer or whatever it's called.
Post 2 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 0:18:35
sorry I meant to title it updating screen readers
Post 3 of 41
PinaColada
I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!
1903 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 1:29:17
Hmm, not sure if you are asking to obtain an illegal copy of jaws or not. If you are, it is
not allow and against the TOS of the zone.
IAs far as NVDA is concern, depends on what version of windows OS you have. You can
change the NVDA default speech from ESpeak to something more pleasant. You can also
pay a small fee to purchase eloquence. I think from memory is around $25US or so.
Post 4 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 2:12:32
I'm not asking for an illegal copy I'm just wondering if I can get a version without having to pay so much money or somehow get more activation keys. Admins, yall can delete this board if I'm breaking any of the TOS sorry.
Post 5 of 41
PinaColada
I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!
1903 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 2:19:23
If you have a legal copy, you should able to get the SMA upgrade for a couple of hundreds
instead of paying the full version which is around $990. You might able to get some zoned
to donate you with an updated user license. It also depends on what was the last upgrade
you have as to how much you need to pay. I think you are not allow to skip a version with
your SMA without paying the full price again.
Post 6 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 2:58:59
Yes, I do have a legal copy, I' using jaws 15 currently. What does SMA stand for?
Post 7 of 41
bea
I just keep on posting!
612 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 8:05:54
It stands for software maintenance agreement and that may be the way for you to go especially since you need jaws for job hunting. Good luck to you. .
Post 8 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
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Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 9:21:12
15 to 17 will cost around 400 because you are 2 back. The current version is 18 however, and that will be more. FS has 3 month versions you can buy for less as well, but you have to deal with them.
Tell your rehab person to set it up as a home or living product, not a job or school related product.
It means rewriting your goals sheet, but can be done.
You need it to maintain your home. Paying bills, shopping, that sort of thing.
NVDA would be a choice too. Simply download the current version and give it a try.
Apply to your local Lion's culb asking exactly the same I explained you'd ask rehab. Tell them you want an upgrade on your SMA.
Go to school. Why not? It will do you good and give you a chance to get out and such.
Post 9 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 9:24:06
I forgot to add. Your current screen reader doesn't expire. It works as long at you want it too. You can even move it to other machines.
Your problem will be using updated programs, but the screen reader will continue to be valid.
Post 10 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 10:26:12
Forgot.
Your current version won't expire. Why do you think this?
Once you have it, you have it.
Post 11 of 41
lalady
move over school!
339 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 12:35:26
What Wayne is saying I think is that you can continue to use your current version of Jaws indefinitely. That could be for several years more or so depending on whether other software programs remain compatible with it. But at some time in the future, you will probably need to update Jaws. Maybe by the time you need to do that, your financial situation will be more stable. Good luck.
Post 12 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
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Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 13:56:44
At her current one, it is time. It works, but not as well probably on the sites and such she wants to use.
Post 13 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 14:51:18
I say it will expire cause it tells me I have 6 days till I need to have it update until I am stuck using the 40 minute mode version and that is annoying.
Post 14 of 41
PinaColada
I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!
1903 posts
Sunday, 26-Feb-2017 23:46:30
Hang on, you are using jaws on 40 minutes mode? The demo version? If that is the case,
you should able to update it without any problem since you are only using the demo
version of jaws.
Otherwise I'm confuse. I can still run my jaws 13 on windows XP computer, and jaws 17
on windows 8.1 computer perfectly fine.
Post 15 of 41
Pasco
Zone BBS is my Life
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Monday, 27-Feb-2017 2:07:48
And I am still using Jaws 16 with Windows 8.1 with no issues, even on the web. The versions work longer than FS would have you think.
Post 16 of 41
Liquid tension experiment
I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS
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Monday, 27-Feb-2017 9:50:14
you could use nvda if you have no other choice and can't pony up the cash. works similar and its free.
Post 17 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Monday, 27-Feb-2017 13:02:19
They work period. Jaws 15 and up work fine it is just some sites you don't see all the information.
If you have Office, or some other current programs, they won't work as well.
Agreed, if using a demo, just get 18. You should have your license key if you own your current version.
Go to help, click on update authorization and follow the prompts.
Even FS will give you an authorization if you are out of them.
They will also tell you your key if you've forgotten it.
Go to fsactivate.com and fill out the form.
The never expire as stated her by several of us.
Post 18 of 41
hardyboy09
I'll have the last word, thank you!
981 posts
Monday, 27-Feb-2017 13:58:26
Also, you can get a Dongle to bypass all those dumb activation key restrictions FS has put in place. HTH.
Post 19 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Monday, 27-Feb-2017 19:22:35
Where can I get the dongle?
Post 20 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Monday, 27-Feb-2017 22:57:32
You have to deal with FS.
You can't get one for your version now however.
Post 21 of 41
Pasco
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Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 2:05:02
Actually v16 works fine with office as long as it isn't office 2016.
Post 22 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 8:41:52
Exactly my point. It won't work with Windows 10 and lots of other things.
If you don't care about that, you're good, or if you never have to replace your system.
If you aren't savvy and can reinstall previous versions of Windows on a new setup, you'll have to upgrade.
I keep current, because I enjoy using the current offerings, websites, and such.
It is more cost effective to upgrade when required then wait for years to pass in my opinion.
I like the advantage of being able to use what I can.
Jaws, no matter what version will be limited, so I like to have less limits as possible when it comes to computing.
But, for this situation, she's fine, and her Jaws will continue to work. That will give her some time to maybe explore the other options as to getting it upgraded.
Post 23 of 41
Christiangirl
Generic Zoner
29 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 16:43:58
I use a laptop at work. We're all way behind the times, and still on Windows (the whole agency) as far as I'm aware. What would be the most recent version of Jaws I could run?
Thanks
Post 24 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 16:50:03
18. I doubt they are using XP. so.
Post 25 of 41
Christiangirl
Generic Zoner
29 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 17:52:08
Sorry, I meant to say Windows 7. In your experiences, how does NVDA's accessibility compare to JFWs? I may consider getting a laptop for home use. I may not have the cash to spend on a new JFW update. I've missed a couple versions, so would probably have to buy a whole new package.
Post 26 of 41
zackmack2000
This site is so "educational"
366 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 19:01:07
I can say, NVDA is pretty good. I've been a power NVDA user for almost 10 years, and have never looked back. Yes I know a lot of people can't stand e speak because they clame that it sounds too much like a robot or alien, but you don't have to use that if you don't want to. You can always revert to using sapi 5 on your system or you can get other voices, some free, some you have to pay for. Code factory has eloquence that you can get as well as an up to date version of vocalizer expressive, but i'm not sure of the price because I've only tried the demo of it. They haven't updated the other vocalizer from tifloktnia or however you spell it in years, so I would assume since code factory has taken over vocalizer they probably wont be anytime soon. Most of the commands for using NVDA is pretty much like jaws, probably the only differences would be if you have to use the quick navigation keys. You can also get addons for NVDA to add more functionality to it.
Post 27 of 41
sia fan bp
I'm going for the prolific poster awards!
1033 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 19:13:41
I use both NVDA and Jaws but JAWS was more for schoolwork then anything else. NVDA was more for Japanese games and stuff. conp But, problem is, ESpeak sounds annoying as crap much like JAWS does. cond
Post 28 of 41
Trisha Takownawa
This site is so "educational"
372 posts
Tuesday, 28-Feb-2017 23:30:06
I am using windows 8
Post 29 of 41
PinaColada
I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!
1903 posts
Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 1:24:48
You can use jaws 18 on windows 8. Although i find that with jaws 15 is good enough.
I got jaws 16 on both of my windows 8.1 machine.
And with NVDA, there shouldn't be any problem running it at all. Like Zackmack said
before, you can change the default voice from ESpeak to something else.
Post 30 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 10:03:29
NVDA has online support chat groups now too, so that is helping people learn it.
They seem to keep it updated.
I prefer Jaws, but that doesn't mean NVDA is bad. Just my preference.
Post 31 of 41
Christiangirl
Generic Zoner
29 posts
Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 13:21:13
How does NVDA work with Excell. I use spreadsheets a lot at work. Although I probably wouldn't use NVDA for work, I am curious as to it handles more advanced commands. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll buy a new laptop and download NVDA.
Post 32 of 41
zackmack2000
This site is so "educational"
366 posts
Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 13:54:25
I don't have office at all on this thing, so as far as the support for Excellgoes I can't comment on it, but I would assume it works quite well.
Post 33 of 41
forereel
Swapping stories.
9725 posts
Wednesday, 01-Mar-2017 18:24:04
The latest version claims support for Microsoft Office.
The problem I see is they will claim support, but it doesn't always work well.
It is free however, so you lose nothing to try it.
Post 34 of 41
Pasco
Zone BBS is my Life
254 posts
Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 2:19:29
Except time.
Post 35 of 41
Shepherdwolf
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1406 posts
Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 9:59:31
I have Jaws 15 with Windows 8.1, so'''yeah.
I can't stand NVDA's default voice, so I got hold of eloquence. They're really quite similar, those two programs. NVDA looks a little different on the internet, and will take just a bit of getting used to, but it's much smaller and more lightweight, and much faster as well in my opinion. Frankly, if I could make webpages look almost or completely the way they do with Jaws on NVDA, I might happily switch over and not go back. I just can't do it though. NVDA says things, announces things and displays things in a way I don't usually find all that intuitive on the internet. Everywhere else though, it's pretty good.
Post 36 of 41
Liquid tension experiment
I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS
225 posts
Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 12:52:30
I have a windows 7 vm on my mac, a windows 8.1 vm, and a windows 10 vm and I use nvda with all of them no problem. And because I have been a jaws user for so long with work and school and things, I am used to that voice so I use that voice with NVDA. Its not that different, and works in all office products just fine for me.
Post 37 of 41
PinaColada
I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!
1903 posts
Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 13:06:58
The way NVDA reads the website will be more like how it will be reads by the sighted.
Jaws can at times simplify a lot of stuff on the website, and sometime, there are things
that Window Eyes and NVDA can pick up but Jaws ignore it. Especially with complicated
site menus. I do agree that it needs time to get use to NVDA though, but ones you get
use to it, it is a great program to have.
NVDA just publish their user guide and tutorials book. I heard that it got great information
and great resources in there.
Post 38 of 41
zackmack2000
This site is so "educational"
366 posts
Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 13:54:43
Tilor, you'll need to go into brows mode settings with NVDA and uncheck the checkbox that says use screan layout, when supported. That will make NVDA read websites the way wineyes and jaws reads them.
Post 39 of 41
battle star queen
I just keep on posting!
665 posts
yesterday 0:21:34
Another solution you might want to look in to is system access by serotek. They have a few different options, but for I think its 22 dollars a month, you can get the anywhere package, which will give you everything, the system access screen reader, which has key strokes that are identical to jaws, docu scan plus, and the system access mobile network. Just thought I'd throw that out there for you.
Post 40 of 41
Pasco
Zone BBS is my Life
254 posts
yesterday 3:06:26
Agree with the last post. System Access is the easiest screen reader to use on the planet, and the Sero network has a lot of great content. In addition, they have built in support for facebook, and an excellent search engine.
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forereel
Swapping stories.
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yesterday 13:54:35
22 per month is expensive though. Jaws pans out to about 8 if you are doing an upgrade.
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Not sure what happened there. I meant to post this: But $22 is for the entire content network which includes email, news, music, described movies, webpage hosting, blogging, forums, voice chatting, facebook and twitter client, OCR, scanning, etc. If you want, you can buy just the screen reader for about a third the price of Jaws, and that buys you lifetime patches and upgrades. You can also buy just the content for $12 per month which is competitive.
Ah, so the $22 is for add ons. Interesting.
Don't know if I'd use all that, but it is an alternative.
rofl I'm dying. poor pasco.
LOL, thanks for your sympathy.
Another good thing about system access is you can install it to a thumb stick and have it with you, so if you have to use a computer that doesn't have a screen reader already installed on it, you don't have to rely on peace of junk narrator. You just plug in your thumb drive with system access already on it, and off you go. When you are done and remove the thumb drive, no traces of system access are left behind on the computer that you were just using. This method came in handy when I was in school, and had to use a computer in the library that didn't have jaws or window-eyes on it.
All the other screen readers can be configured with a thumb dive as well.
I had too much confusion with NVDA. It kept doing weird things with the num-pad, and how it's used.
I gave up, because, I saw a chance to get JAWS, and bit the bullet.
Blessings,
Sarah who has nightmares about NVDA
Has anyone tried narator in the windows 10 anaversary update? Give it a look
because microsoft is doing some really need things. In the next update Braille
support is supposed to be included as well as a talking install. Narator is free
and the voices aren't bad. worth a look for sure. I've used the Internet and
installed programs with it and have had great luck.
I have not yet. I plan to try when the update comes to me though. I've read Microsoft is doing well though.
I have, but I can tell I don't like it, i'm too used to NVDA, and the fact that i'm running win 10 in a vm under fusion on mac, I can't use the capslock key for anything, even if I remap it to something else, it just doesn't work. while it may be good, they still have a long way to go before it can really be up with NVDA, jaws or wineyes, but they are on the right track. I've also hurd that a talking installer will be apart of win10 starting next month sometime, which is great, they finally did it but it took them long enough, that was something that I think should have been done in the days of xp but there you go
Hi, I am posting my reply with the new Narrator so far its quite responsive. I have a windows10 Del 975 expirinn . When there is a miss spelling Narrator even lets you know of the wavey underline after the miss spelled word. You can move by elements, headings, landmarks, paragraphs, links and tables. Narrator even will notify you of the notification tray in windows10. Narrator reads outlook 2013 messages but will most like work with 2016 office and office360.
if you reroute yoru caps lock in your vmwear's options you can get caps to work
I reset my vm the other day, so let me tell you a better way of getting your caps lock back.
I took a key I never ever use like f1, and used a program called sharp keys to remap f1 to insert. you don't have to use f1, but that's just what I was told.